Third Party Report - Latest Comments

Re: Motion For Summary Judgment Filed in case of LPO v LPO

WesWagner — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:30:41 -0000

Additional documents:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/1...

Re: What if Johnson Doesn’t Get 5%

George Phillies — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:45:20 -0000

It would appear that reality favored Wes Wagner, as the Johnson campaign seems not to be passing the 1% line (several large states have votes to count yet).

Re: Email from Mr. Wagner to all State Chairs of the Libertarian Party

George Phillies — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:42:14 -0000

The so-called State Chairs list, which is still funded by the LNC via their supplying LNC servers, continues to subsidize the Republican takeover attempt of our Oregon State Party by servicing the false state chair rather than the true Oregon State Chair, Mr. Wagner. Is the other side a Republican takeover attempt? Let's see: Tried to cross-nominate Republican candidates for office. Has recently-resigned-from-Republican-Party-Office person as an alleged state officer. Has political consultant for Republicans in leadership.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

George Phillies — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:38:06 -0000

Our Libertarian National Committee has a vacancy for an At-Large position, created when Wayne Root fled the Libertarian National Committee and our Party for the Republicans.

There are a variety of candidates. We express our opinions on several of them. Your mileage may vary.

Paulie (Paul Frankel) - Highly endorsed. If you read the Starchild LNC Reflector list groups.yahoo.com/group/LNCD... you will soon notice that most of the sound political thinking is being done by one person, Paul Frankel. Paulie is also the person who was giving the LNC coherent updates on ballot access, something that the LNC Executive Director and ballot access committee seem not to be doing.

Mark Hinkle—Unfit to serve. Hinkle has already been rejected by the membership, by vote of the National Convention. He lost to a candidate who lost to NOTA. Under his leadership, national party membership fell, and at the end fund raising collapsed. Hinkle spent thousands of dollars of LNC funds on legal research on the Oregon issue, research that was then turned over to the people suing our party affiliate. That change may yet get us into legal issues again. He accused Rachel Hawkridge of being our source on the LNC, and refused to supply evidence that would let her defend herself..

David Blau—Dave is a good guy and a personal friend. He has been a respectable state chair. He has not been active in our party for very long, so he is less involved in (good) or aware of (less good) some of our more contentious issues. However, he is so far as I can tell supportive of buying a building in DC, which I view as disqualifying.

Mark Rutherford, Emily Salvette, Aaron Starr, Rebecca Sink-Burris, Wayne Root, Alicia Mattson, Kevin Knedler, Scott Lieberman, Dan Wiener, Gary Johnson of New Mexico, Joe Buchman, and Ron Nielson—Do Not Elect. You have seen their records in my newsletter, including the Johnson campaign team. We can surely do better.

Gigi Bowman—has actually done a number of activist deeds.

Jim Duensing—A dedicated champion for his beliefs as to what is important. Unfortunately, these beliefs include a number of conspiracy theories that would distract from his role on the LNC.

Re: What if Johnson Doesn’t Get 5%

WesW — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:09:11 -0000

http://newmexico.watchdog.o...

This is what I was afraid of.

Re: Email from Mr. Wagner to all State Chairs of the Libertarian Party

George Phillies — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:54:56 -0000

An excellent effort at spontaneous self-organization, showing how spontaneous reaction can purge the system of toxic anomalies.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

David Colborne — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:59:05 -0000

Yeah, sort of. They're more isolationist than anything - they're not against war, per se, so much as against us sending troops put of the country. Granted, that's a significant improvement, so I shouldn't complain too much.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

WesW — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:17:15 -0000

http://www.foxnews.com/poli...

Final tally for Obama, 332 EVs

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

WesW — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:47:19 -0000

I think the money will come when we can put forward a better message. There was extreme pent up demand (99% movement, Ron Paul, etc.) for the prosecute the bankers and return control of this country to the common man... but our candidate did not really touch that egalitarian position with a 10 foot pole.

Having that message, and then being correct on all the other issues, like peace, end war on drugs, equality in marriage, etc. -- and I think you would have seen more grassroots support and money bombs.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Joe Buchman — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:05:18 -0000

Haven't had time to double check the math above, and http://www.google.com/elect... seems stuck at the 1,139,000 number (anyone know when Michigan's write-in votes will be reported?)

I have no information here other than his public statement, but I believe Governor Johnson is currently saying something to the effect of, "I'll run again if I see a path to winning."

IMO that means something to the effect of -- a path to having $20 million, or more promised/guaranteed, prior to the LP nominating convention -- or raising about twice what the campaign raised this past year, in each of the next four years. I'd like to give that a shot.

I think there is (as there has been apparently in most of the past Libertarian campaigns) a hope for some sort of "angel" funding -- a source similar to David Koch in 1980 -- who could just put that on the table early in 2016 to get things going with the goal of raising $100 million or more.

We also have the brand-image (false or not) of being the techno-nerds. But what we seem to have zero of is the computer analysis required for GOTV efforts -- something the duopoly party has mastered -- targeting down to household addresses.

Personally, I'd like to put something on the table by late 2015 that Governor Johnson would find irresistible when it is included in his evaluation of whether to run for POTUS again and I'd like every Libertarian and Liberty-lover to join in that effort (grassroots/bottom up).

(At least that's my idea of what would be fun to do over the next three years.) And if we can't create that . . . what's the point?

Re: Reeves et.al. as LPO v LPO, Wagner et.al. — (and the OR GOP?)

Joe Buchman — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:53:29 -0000

Thanks Wes,

I've heard most of this before but not in sequence. It helps to make sense of things.

THANKS too for putting this site up.

Joe

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Paulie — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:37:51 -0000

CP is mostly antiwar though.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

David Colborne — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:26:42 -0000

It seemed to me that the "Constitution Party" wasn't so much a unified national party as a loose affiliation of various state "Constitution Party" groups that sort of worked together on occasion. Very occasionally, might I add.

I suspect that part of the problem with the Constitution Party is that the ideology isn't particularly unique - it's basically what the GOP ostensibly says they support, only on steroids. Definitionally, the CP is basically where dissatisfied Republicans that don't think the GOP is "Republican enough" wander off to for a few to rest and regroup.

Re: Reeves et.al. as LPO v LPO, Wagner et.al. — (and the OR GOP?)

Jill Pyeatt — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 22:35:40 -0000

This timeline is very helpful and It is what I recall of the situation. One suggestion: perhaps you should note that the LNC recognized the Reeves group, which was then overturned by the committees Judicial Committee.

Re: What if Johnson Doesn’t Get 5%

WesW — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:02:34 -0000

It would appear reality is favoring Dr. Buchman.

Re: What if Johnson Doesn’t Get 5%

WesW — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:01:38 -0000

News is out that Gary broke the million vote mark. Still uncertain if he will beat Ed Clarke's record 1.06% total.

Re: Gary Johnson — Invitation to: “Party With Me Tonight!”

Joe Buchman — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:19:08 -0000

One blog and one report from the party:

http://boston.com/community...

http://reason.com/blog/2012...

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Joe Buchman — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:11:28 -0000

Is this the end of the Constitution Party?

This is also the likely end of the Constitution Party as Virgil is likely to get less than 4,000 votes nationwide.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Joe Buchman — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:10:39 -0000

Someone check my math here --

Gary is currently at 1,139,000+ at

http://www.google.com/elect...

If I did all the math right on the states that are not yet at 100 percent reporting, and if the non-reporting precincts in those states have equivalent percentages for Gary as the already reported precincts, then I estimate there are about 65,000 uncounted votes for Gary Johnson in states where he's on the ballot.

If we also assume the write in vote for Gary in Michigan will be equivalent to one half of the votes cast for Jill Stein, that's another 10,000 uncounted votes for Johnson/Gray.

So once everything is in, I'm guessing Gary will be well over 1,200,000 (but under 1,300,000) -- say 1,225,000 as the minimum.

That passes Ed Clark's total of 921,128 by more than 300,000 votes or about 1/3rd.

Matching or passing Ed's percentage of 1.06% is also possible as Gary is currently at 1.0 percent on Google's map, and they are rounding to the nearest 1/10th of a percent. They also have zero votes from Michigan reported.

Here's the state by state estimate of current likely uncounted votes:

Alaska 4418/.63 = 7012 - 4418 = 2594 (or 4418 * .37)

Washington = 20,000

Oregon = 10,300

California 7654

Nevada 1634

Idaho 912

Utah 100

Arizona 80

Montana 2136

Texas 800

New Mexico 80

Kansas 290

Arkansas 790

Iowa 100

Minnesota 90

Wisconsin 100

Michigan ????

Indiana 24

Ohio 145

Pennsylvania 390

NY 120

NH 740

MA 2700

SC 750

MS 300

TN 900

Vermont 160

VA 1200

MD 400

Colorado 7500

NJ 285

MA 1400

RI 120

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Joe Buchman — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:22:35 -0000

Best results are here (click on "show all candidates") -- http://www.google.com/elect...

Looks like Governor Johnson is on track for over 1,200,000 votes to me (some western states reporting only 50 percent of precincts reporting.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Joe Buchman — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:52:17 -0000

Party still going on among campaign staff. Meeting of key staff at 10 am (in 8 hours or so). Both the fundraiser and the ballroom events were wonderful. Thanks to Ryan Shattuck (our social media guy) and Grant Huihui.

My 88 year old dad, a Roosevelt Democrat, told me he voted for Gary Johnson (in Indiana today). He read Gary's 7 Lessons of Good Government book. Didn't agree with everything, but felt like "sending a message."

I wish I had words to express what that means to me.

I'll post this much here -- I love my dad.

And I've overwhelmed with gratitude to Gary Johnson. He poured his heart out for this campaign.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Jill Pyeatt — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:11:47 -0000

Have you all heard that GJ has surpassed 1,000,000 votes? !!

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

WesW — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 04:34:59 -0000

Johnson is beating Stein in Oregon at the moment.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

David Colborne — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 04:19:53 -0000

55, at least according to Google. Sounds right.

Re: General 2012 Discussion Thread!!!

Jill Pyeatt — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 03:57:55 -0000

Does anyone know how many electoral votes CA has?